Talk:Sedation

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Ability Naming Conventions
The following sources are used for determining evolved human ability names, in order:
1. Canon Sources Episodes
2. Near-canon Sources Webisodes,
Graphic Novels,
iStories,
Heroes Evolutions
3. Secondary Sources Episode commentary,
Interviews,
Heroes: Survival
4. Common names for abilities Names from other works
5. Descriptions of abilities
Descriptions
6. Possessor's name If no non-speculative
description is possible

Note: The highlighted row represents the level of the source used to determine sedation's name.

Sound Manipulation

It is just me or could this one be sound manipulation like Echo DeMille's or Jesse Murphy's? I could be wrong though, but it seemed like sound manipulation to me anyways.

  • No, I don't think so. Those cause pain and death with the noise, this just knocks you out. It's similar in that sound is used to make it work, but I think that's it.--WarGrowlmon18 23:30, 9 March 2009 (EDT)
    • Echo could reproduce with the brown note by whistling too, and we don't call his ability "Diarrheic Manipulation" or something. --Litox 10:41, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

Name Source?

Where is the name "sedation" coming from. It works, and I like it, but this really should be "Samson Gray's Ability" until we can get a consensus if we have no canon sources. ( Talk To Jakk55 ) 02:13, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

  • We didn't get a canon name for Body Insertion either, but we didnt call it Future Peter's Ability. The last thing we need are more Soandso's Ability's. I'm all for everyone suggesting new ideas for names, as long as it's not named after the user.--Piemanmoo 02:17, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
    • I originally thought Hypnosis for the ability name, but sedation would work as well. --SacValleyDweller (talk) 02:26, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
      • Hypnosis implies that Samson made his son do what he wanted him to do while using his power, which didn't seem the case to me. Sedation is a good common name for the ability.--MiamiVolts (talk) 02:34, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
  • Sleep paralysis: A frightening form of paralysis that occurs when a person suddenly finds himself or herself unable to move for a few minutes, most often upon falling asleep or waking up. Sleep paralysis is due to an ill-timed disconnection between the brain and the body.

The symptoms of sleep paralysis include sensations of noises, smells, levitation, paralysis, terror, and images of frightening intruders. Once considered very rare, about half of all people are now believed to experience sleep paralysis sometime during their life. --Mike the Man-child!

  • If we have consensus on a name, we don't need to name the power "Samson Gray's ability". I'm fine with "sedation". I'm also fine with "hypnosis", though I think that's not as good a choice since it has a different connotation (psychologists, swinging watches, and stage tricks all come to mind). I think "sedation" is fine. But if we have opposition to it, or can't find a name that everyone agrees on, that's when we'll have to revert to "Samson's ability". (Please, let's all agree! :) ) -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:28, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

Talk 13:31, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

      • Me too, it's good, it's accurate, and it's simple. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 14:38, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
        • Thanks for the explanation RGB. I would also vote to leave it as is. ( Talk To Jakk55 ) 22:58, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

It Looked Odd

When Sampson was whistling I thought we were going to have Sylar use Clairsentience because of the tune (didn't remember you need to actually touch it) but then the commercial happened, and then when it came back its like the scene before never happened. But I guess looking back it was obvious that Sampson used it as an ability as opposed to a tune that would trigger some memory.--Dman dustin 09:34, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

Lead image

Should definitely be of Samson sedating the rabbit. You can see what's going on in it.--Riddler 10:11, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

  • I don't think that's him using the sedation power. If I'm not mistaken, he's using telekinesis to hold the rabbit in place. I think the sedation power is when he whistles--that's what made Sylar drowsy. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 13:26, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
    • But he did whistle to hold the rabbit and it looks exactly the same way he made Sylar drowsy.--NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 14:07, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
      • I agree with RGS, I was under the TK impression as well. -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- 15:24, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
        • From the looks of it, I was under the impression he wanted to hold it in place with TK, yet couldn't access the ability. At least I didn't hear the sound effect for TK. The rabbit could have stood still of its own accord. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 15:40, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
          • I don't think the rabbit was staying still on his own accord. It's not in the animal's nature, and Samson was holding out his hand. It was written to be a forced thing. I don't remember hearing any whistling at that point--I'll have to review the episode...My gut says that he was using telekinesis on the rabbit. Afterall, the rabbit never seemed to become drowsy like Sylar did later on. But ultimately, if it's unclear, we should use the image that is clearly Samson using the whistling power, which is when he used it on Sylar. -- RyanGibsonStewart (talk) 18:39, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
            • I have the episode (since I'm from London, so I always have to download it) and Samson is definitely whistling when he pointed his hand to the rabbit.--NiveKJ13 (talk2me) 18:55, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
              • Ah, I see. He definitely was sedating the rabbit. Great catch, NiveKj. -- Psilaq R.- \m/ -_- \m/- 19:50, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

who says this exists

IceGhost78 what

Everyone who posted above you. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 20:58, 10 March 2009 (EDT)

IceGhost78 i didnt mean popular opinion i mean where did this come from

The fact that when Samson pointed his hand at the rabbit and whistled, it stopped dead in its tracks. When Samson pointed his hand at Sylar and whistled, things went blurry for him and he pretended to become drowsy and incapacitated. -Sincerely, Thrashmeister » talk- 22:31, 10 March 2009 (EDT)
Oh that, I thought you we're mentioning something else, my bad. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 12:30, 11 March 2009 (EDT)
IceGhost78 oh dang i did not hear him whistle to the rabbit i thought he stopped it with telekinesis I knew he whistled to Sylar though

How it works

In behind the eclipse week 18, the writers briefly explain how it works--Rod 13:47, 24 March 2009 (EDT) http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=20529

Rename to Secondary Sources

In the Eclipse week 18, Joe Pokaski & Aron Coleite said that "The whistle is the same ability he used to stun the rabbit. Kind of like a Siren’s Song. Lulling their prey into a hypnotic state." It could be renamed to Stunning or Hypnosis. Mateussf 14:27, 23 May 2009 (EDT)

  • I like stunning better, hypnosis has a persuasion vibe. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 20:34, 23 May 2009 (EDT)
    • What about lulling? - Hive 18:47, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
      • Lulling isn't really connected to the state the person this ability is used on is left on, stunning does. Intuitive Empath - Talk - Contributions 19:06, 25 May 2009 (EDT)
        • Lulling means to cause sleep, rest or calm. I'd rather keep sedation though. - Hive 00:32, 27 May 2009 (EDT)

Similarity

Anyone notice the similarity to enhanced synesthesia?--ERROR 22:59, 15 January 2010 (EST)

  • Not really... --Scorvi12 23:18, 15 January 2010 (EST)
    • No, these abilities do separate things.--Catalyst · Talk · HL 23:20, 15 January 2010 (EST)